For years there have been rumors that Sex and the City co-stars Sarah Jessica Parker and Kim Cattrall flat-out don’t like each other. Of course, any time the women are asked about each other, they vehemently deny the feud, but we’ve gotta say: Where there’s smoke, there’s usually fire. And after plans for a third Sex and the City movie fell through, it became all but impossible to believe there wasn’t bad blood between the two. From nasty comments to low-key shade, here’s a timeline of Sarah Jessica Parker and Kim Cattrall’s feud. It’s amazing they managed to have so much chemistry as Carrie and Samantha.

February 2004

Filming for the SATC movie was supposed to start shortly after the final episode aired on HBO. However, the shooting was reportedly delayed due to salary negotiations — namely Kim’s. Apparently, Kim wanted a big pay increase after SJP got an executive producer credit in the second season and harbored resentment ever since then. “I felt after six years it was time for all of us to participate in the financial windfall of Sex and the City,” she said in an interview, revealing that she wanted to be paid $1 million per episode instead of the $350,000 she was making. “When they didn’t seem keen on that I thought it was time to move on.”

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September 2004

At the Emmys, where both Sarah Jessica, as well as Cynthia Nixon, won awards, Kim sat noticeably far away from her co-stars. At an after-party, SJP, Cynthia, and Kristen Davis were all seen hanging out together, while Kim did her own thing. When she was later asked why they were separated, Kim said, “Are we the best of friends? No. We’re professional actresses. We have our own separate lives.” Shots fired.

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December 2009

Both Kim and Sarah Jessica attempted to dispel rumors respectively by classing it up a bit. Kim (along with Cynthia Nixon) attended the premiere of SJP’s movie Did You Hear About the Morgans? to show her support. Meanwhile, that same month, Sarah Jessica said of Kim in an interview with Elle: “I don’t think anybody wants to believe that I love Kim. I adore her. I wouldn’t have done the movie without her. Didn’t and wouldn’t.”

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January 2010

In a lengthy interview with the Daily Mail, Kim disputed the rumor again, saying, “I think Sarah was right: people don’t want to believe that we get on. They have too much invested in the idea of two strong, successful women fighting with each other. It makes for juicy gossip and copy. The truth of us being friends and getting along and happily doing our jobs together is nowhere near as newsworthy. I think Sarah is fantastic… She and I are sick of this. It’s exhausting talking about it, and a real bore. Next?”

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May 2010

Accompanying a SATC cover shoot for Marie Claire, the four ladies gave an in-depth interview. During it, Sarah Jessica alluded that, at times, the women didn’t all get along. “When you’re on set, you’re working 90-hour weeks, you’re never home, you’re exhausted,” she confessed. “There are times when all of us have been sensitive, and sometimes feelings get hurt. But I don’t have any regrets about how I’ve treated people.”

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August 2016

SJP threw people for a loop when she posted a sweet birthday message to Kim on Instagram. She wrote: “Happy birthday you beauty @kimcattrall. Sending love and the very best for a perfectly marvelous, joyous, healthy, and adventure filled birthday year. Your ol’ pal, fellow mischief maker and ‘sister,’ Sj xxx” Hmm…maybe that will make the rumors stop?

October 2016

In an interview with Howard Stern, Sarah Jessica denied the rumors yet again, but admitted it wasn’t always smooth sailing on set. “Was every day perfect? Were people always desperately, hopefully in love with each other? No, but this is a family of people who needed each other, relied upon each other and loved each other. This sort of narrative, this ongoing catfight, it really upset me for a very long time,” she said.

September 2017

Plans for a third Sex and the City film were squashed and SJP made no bones about it. During an interview with Extra, she said, “It’s over … we’re not doing it. I’m disappointed. We had this beautiful, funny, heartbreaking, joyful, very relatable script and story. It’s not just disappointing that we don’t get to tell the story and have that experience, but more so for that audience that has been so vocal in wanting another movie.”

Shortly after news broke, the Daily Mail reported that the cancellation was due to Kim’s salary demands, but Kim wasn’t having it. She took to Twitter to clear the air, saying, “Woke 2 a @MailOnline [poop emoji] storm! The only ‘DEMAND’ I ever made was that I didn’t want to do a 3rd film…. and that was back in 2016.”

October 2017

After news of the film being canceled broke, Kim did an interview with Piers Morgan and she didn’t mince words when it came to dishing on her co-stars. After calling her relationship with the women “toxic,” she said, “They all have children and I am ten years older and since specifically the series ended I have been spending most of my time outside of New York so I don’t see them. The common ground that we had was the series and the series is over.” She also added, “This is really where I take to task the people from Sex and the City and specifically Sarah Jessica Parker in that I think she could have been nicer. I really think she could have been nicer.” Fighting words? We think so.

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February 2018

On Sunday, Feb. 4, Kim sadly announced that her brother Chris Cattrall had been found dead after he had been missing for less than a week. Of course, Kim’s SATC co-stars left comments with their condolences on Kim’s Instagram post, including Sarah.

But Kim made it very clear that she does not want anything to do with Sarah, and she even accused Sarah of exploiting her brother’s death in order to improve her reputation. “Let me make this VERY clear. (If I haven’t already) You are not my family. You are not my friend. So I’m writing to tell you one last time to stop exploiting our tragedy in order to restore your ‘nice girl’ persona,” Kim wrote.