Rachael Ray Reveals ‘Weird’ Aspect of Her Marriage With Husband John Cusimano: ‘Different Worlds’

Rachael Ray is sharing insight into her marriage to husband John M. Cusimano like never before. During the latest episode of her “I’ll Sleep When I’m Dead” podcast on Tuesday, November 5, the celebrity chef revealed that they “balance” each other out in a “weird way.”

“You know, [John is] a lawyer and a musician,” Rachael, 56, told guest Jacques Pépin. “I’m not a musician. I’m certainly no lawyer. I hate reading legal documents and official stuff, but we balance each other in a weird way. We allow each other to be open to different worlds.”

“I also think it’s fun to be able to get out thoughts truthfully,” she explained.

Rachael and John have been married since 2005 and he has been featured on her television shows a number of times over the years. The TV personality credited her husband for helping her succeed in her career.

“One of the things that I think has been essential to my life and my success over the years is the partner that I chose,” Rachael said. “I love my husband John, and John works with me and has built our business and our brand together, but we agree in concept about service to community, service to the world, service to animals, to children.”

“My husband and I didn’t get married until very late in life, 37 and 38 years old,” the Rachael Ray’s Meals in Minutes host said. “But it was very important to me that I marry him because I thought this person could be a true partner in what I believe in and building, not a business, but a community.”

Rachael said that marrying John was “very important” to her as she prepared to start her business.

“I thought this person could be a true partner in what I believe in and helping people and building not a business, but a community,” she explained.

In a previous episode of the podcast, Rachael said that she and John recognize when they need some time apart from each other.

“I am very wildly, wildly, wildly lucky that I have my husband,” she told guest Billy Crudup during the October 29 episode. “But he understands I need my space. He needs his space.”

And during the October 22 episode of the show, Rachael said that she and John have had their fair share of arguments over the years.

“It’s very hard, especially for hot-tempered or creative or vociferous loud people to be able to just calm it down,” she explained. “John and I don’t calm it down ever. We have huge screaming matches all the time, but I think that’s healthy. I really do. And I don’t trust people that are too quiet.”

Guest Jenny Mollen asked whether Rachael or John is likely to apologize first after an argument.

“I don’t know that we ever apologize to each other,” Rachael responded. “Eventually I pat him on his ass or he kisses me on the head, and that’s just sort of it. That’s the apology. It’s just sort of understood. ‘I still like your ass.’ ‘I still like your head.’ It’s kind of in that zone.”