Is it or isn’t it?! Just days after Ellen Pompeo teased that Grey’s Anatomy could be ending soon after 14 seasons, her ABC co-star Debbie Allen shared a much different opinion while exclusively chatting with Closer Weekly about her new Dove Real Beauty Productions Film, An Hour With Her.

“I don’t see that right now. The train is so strong and the audience is so committed. It’s so global. Grey’s Anatomy has a huge audience that is brand new. We’ve had a whole new audience the last couple of years of 13 or 14-year-olds that started from Season 1 and are now our biggest fans,” she shared with us. Debbie also praised the show’s “storytelling,” and promised we’re in for a “remarkable” end to the show’s current 14th season.

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Ellen, who plays Dr. Meredith Grey on the long-running series, told Us Weekly on Tuesday, May 1 that after 13 years and 14 seasons on-air, it’s almost time to say goodbye to the staff at Grey Sloan Memorial Hospital. Though the final call to end the series will be made by herself and creator Shonda Rimes, Ellen did admit “there is an end and it’s nearing.” Fans know the show was recently renewed for Season 15, so for now there’s that to look forward to — plus the last three episodes of this season.

Debbie began her run as Dr. Catherine Avery in 2011 and in 2015, also began working as an executive producer and director on the wildly successful medical drama. The job’s definitely kept her busy through the years, as she previously told Closer, “The one thing I don’t do very well is sleep!”

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